Are you worried about getting the jab?

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    • #1716734
      toot2000
      Member

      So many different vaccines, it’s confusing.

      I’m very lucky not to have any serious underlying conditions so I think I’ll wait a while before rushing in. Can completely understand the urgency some people feel about it, but I wish there wasn’t so much negatuve feedback about after affects.

      Are you worried about getting the jab?

    • #1740423
      Mak
      Member

      All Americans SEEM to be OK, crikey, and at 34 years old if his immune system can’t destroy SARS viruses, so if his understanding of being healthy is to use drugs then he is way off the track of normality.
      Corona-19 is a virus INFECTION, it is NOT a disease until it clogs the lungs with gunk.

      Mild and Moderate Cases

      As the infection travels your respiratory tract, your immune system fights back. Your lungs and airways swell and become inflamed. This can start in one part of your lung and spread.

      About 80% of people who have COVID-19 get mild to moderate symptoms. You may have a dry cough or a sore throat. Some people have pneumonia, a lung infection in which the alveoli are inflamed.

      Doctors can see signs of respiratory inflammation on a chest X-ray or CT scan. On a chest CT, they may see something they call “ground-glass opacity” because it looks like the frosted glass on a shower door.

      The ravings of politicians, the media, the health non-experts must think that the SARS viruses are worse killers than the Black Plague when seeing and hearing the exaggerated  bul***it and fear-mongering just to make $10.00 per jab for Mr Pfizer and shareholders, after making $3.5 billion profit in the first 3 months of 2021, plus the GSK-Pfizer massive medicinal production facility built in Wuhan, China in 2018.

      All that information is on the Internet to prove that Covid-19 is to make wealthy people more wealthy. 

      • #1740425
        Lucca
        Member

        Are you related to Beems, you both seem to be on planet of the zombies.

      • #1740426
        Lucca
        Member

        You must have missed the part about millions dying, millions more getting VERY sick and millions more having ongoing health issues, all while the world has been shutdown, in particular international travel was heavily disrupted…..yet millions were and still are dying/getting sick/having ongoing health issues.

        Obviously it hasn’t touched you, hence you don’t see/feel the pain, like many others you don’t think it’s a problem.

        Try to use your brain and THINK. Why would over 200 countries, many who despise each other, get together to make out that the virus is bad when it’s not just to be able to sell a vaccine.

        Use some common sense, this is not about selling vaccines, pharmaceutical companies don’t need a hand to make money, they were already one of the best performing sectors in the world. You don’t destroy economies to give one sector more money. Ridiculous rubbish that you are sprouting. 

        THINK about the numbers that would have been involved if no lockdowns happened, if the virus was left to run rampant, THAT was the main issue, hospitals would not be able to handle the numbers, vast numbers more would have died because they would not have been able to be cared for.

         

      • #1740428
        Beemee
        Member

        Yea Mak, I have the same info from my cousins (specialist doctors), data from other cousins (in legal field), and some facts from a Government member who I trust.

        So how much is the majority of the Government lying – well what about Qld Premier (old Anna) totally denied and refused to answer a question about people being pissed off because they couldn’t see their dying loved ones, yet she brings in sportsman/sportswoman, the rich, etc. There is a double standard here. A lot of normal family Aussies are isolating, quarantining, or following the rules, and we get this isolated lot who think they have a right to go outside the square to do what they want. This stupid Premier needs a kick in the arse and make her brain react, there ARE people out there who want to be with their loved ones as they pass. I bet if permitted, they would do double shift in isolation or in Quarantine just to have seen their loved ones.

        https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-aussies-frustrated-over-covid19-restriction-double-standard/8e52c71f-71a4-4561-a88c-109299b4b392

         

      • #1740430
        Beemee
        Member

        Beemee – Only 21 hours ago you said:

        “No more replies from me either, I will wait till Christmas and will take delight in saying I warned you of you this.”

        You lied……..

      • #1740432
        PlanB
        Member

        Darn right BeeMee re that piece of work  Annastacia Palaszczuk she is a mean woman that is only interested in the footballers, the rich and celebs and cares nothing about anyone that has a real problem —

      • #1740433
        Beemee
        Member

        I thought I heard someone in the background? Guess it was an empty echo of someone I don’t comment to.

        Plan B – I don’t know if this is true or not as I didn’t get  a link in an email. But apparently a Priest has been hounding the PM to vaccinate the homeless. But nothing happened. Now all of a sudden this Priest has the vaccine is doing the jabs at his church.

        If ever the whole planet needed a fact finding expedition, its now. Morrison has done nothing for the homeless who can’t isolate or go quarantine. They are as much on the frontline as our medical staff. That to me spells loudly that Morrison wants them off the planet. Then he gives the okay for over 60’s to have AZ knowing full well that is comes with risks.

        That smacks of a massive cull of the unwanted, those who have a reliance on pensions. He needs a wake up call, all people are equal in Australia whether he likes it or not.

        Geez, why is it so bloody hard to do what 2 carpenters are doing in the USA, they are building out of wood, skip bin sized accommodation with solar and a battery for lighting only. It gives them a warm area out of the cold and rain. It is done for very little money and these units can be moved to another area if the homeless person needs to move. Gives a warm feeling to those who this type of thing and shame the Government in any country for doing sweet F.A.

         

      • #1740436
        PlanB
        Member

        BeeMee you are so right YES the Wayside chapel in Sydney, they do a great job for the homeless Bless them!

         

        Yes, Morrison couldn’t care less for anyone that is not wealthy or important — and you might be right I am sure he would like to be rid of such people and the older folk as well.

        All Morrison cares about is jobs and MONEY and talking rot of what he is going to do — but does FA — yes he appears to be but behind the scenes, it is all taken away — like he took heaps from NDIS and now is  said to be GIVING millions, typical of him Howard used to do the same

      • #1740437
        Beemee
        Member

        One wonders PlanB if all the money he is dishing out to gas, oil and coal wouldn’t be better spent on things like making sure all were safely in a house of their own, had top medical treatment, maybe dental in some areas. Over the last month or so, with all of thee 3 area he has offered out about 800 – 100 million.  And 600 million of that was for gas in one area.

        I got an email that was blunt, oh so blunt that I can’t put it up here, I’d be sacked haha. The Equation was…  Morrison = Hitler, Australia = Death Camp, Australians = Prisoners, QR Code = ( Branding by number (or The Australian Card no one wanted ). There was more but this was the cleanest part of it.

         

    • #1740424
      Lucca
      Member

      More fake news!!!

    • #1740427
      catsahoy
      Member

       had MY FIRST JAB  earlier this month,  get my second on 26th august,   no after effects, except a sore arm,   anyone who doesnt get the  vaccination [except for medical reasons]   is very very silly,   apart from being selfish,   ,    it will come in that anyone who DOESNT get  vaccinated will be unable to go to work,      firms will not run the risk of infecting a whole workplace , on the whim of a few,     looking at the world,   i cannot understand anyone NOT getting it,  this is going to be around for a long time,   why would you not insure yourself,  and your family,  against getting this virus,     

      • #1740431
        toot2000
        Member

        Agree cats, the fear of death for some people is overwhelming.

    • #1740435
      Ny19
      Participant

      Seven new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in Victoria

      By Cassandra Morgan

      Victoria has recorded seven new local coronavirus cases.

      Four of those cases are in the Ariele Apartments complex in Maribyrnong in Melbourne’s north-west, all on the third floor of the complex. The complex was visited by two removalists while infectious.

      One of the new cases is a man in his 60s, who visited the MCG on July 10 between 4pm and 8pm.

      We’ll bring you more on this developing story shortly.

      SMH 14/07/21

    • #1740439
      Lucca
      Member

      French President Emmanuel Macron tests positive to coronavirus - ABC News

      ABC 

       

      PARIS, July 13 (Reuters) – Hundreds of thousands of people in France rushed to set up appointments to get vaccinated against the coronavirus after the president warned that the unvaccinated would face restrictions aimed at curbing the quick spread of the Delta variant.

      Unveiling sweeping measures to combat a surge in infections, Emmanuel Macron said on Monday night that vaccination would not be compulsory for the general public for now but stressed that restrictions would focus on those who are not vaccinated.

       

      Well done Mac!!!!!!!

       

       

    • #1740440
      toot2000
      Member

      WHO proposes fresh coronavirus mission to China and lab audits

      A WHO-led team spent four weeks in and around the central city of Wuhan with Chinese researchers and said in a joint report in March that the virus had probably been transmitted from bats to humans through another animal.

      But countries including the United States and some scientists have demanded further investigation, particularly into the Wuhan Institute of Virology which was conducting research into bats.

      “Finding the origins of this virus is a scientific exercise that must be kept free from politics. For that to happen, we expect China to support this next phase of the scientific process by sharing all relevant data in a spirit of transparency,” Tedros said.  

      China has called the theory that the virus may have escaped from a Wuhan laboratory “absurd” and said repeatedly that “politicising” the issue would hamper investigations……

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/16/who-proposes-fresh-coronavirus-mission-to-china-and-lab-audits?taid=60f1efcec5720500017c268c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

       

      • #1740442
        Suze
        Participant

        I heard on this morning news that China is going to test all people in the city of Wuhan..

        … which is some 11 million tests.

        Hubei province map

    • #1740441
      toot2000
      Member

       

      A therapy made from a Covid patient’s own blood is being trialled to treat lung scarring that’s left after hospitalisation.

      Doctors at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust in London have begun a small trial using patients’ white blood cells.

       

      • #1740443
        Suze
        Participant

         A very interesting it of research toot

        https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-57837432

      • #1740444
        Beemee
        Member

        Bit late for my friend.

        Frank was a bit younger than me and for all the right reasons and without any peer pressure, chose to have the Astrazenica vaccination.

        First jab all was well, a minor soreness on the jab site but other than that okay and chipper.

        Second jab at the proposed right time after the first, he died.

        He had NO covid-19 at all. He in fact had no real reason to have the jab, as the area he lives is and has been free from the virus every since this crap started.

        Family wanted answers, which is normal. Officials told them a flat and firm NO!  They demanded to have the autopsy, but were flatly told NO!

        Whether you believe it or not, there is only one concession that autopsies are not done, and that is if in hospital with something that is known to be terminal. There is no need for an autopsy then.

        So why in hell did they not want to do it? What are they really hiding? Why don’t they want you to find out what really killed Frank? (or anyone else for that matter).

        No wonder people are getting up in arms about it, and telling people they suspect something isn’t kosher. I lost a good friend of over 30 years to this vaccination, if it had of been the Covid itself, I would have understood.

      • #1740446
        PlanB
        Member

        So sorry to hear that BeeMee,

        What was the effect your friend had after he got that second vaccination?

      • #1740447
        PlanB
        Member

         received his fourth dose

         

        Why and how when people can’t get their 1st?

      • #1740448
        PlanB
        Member

        Beemee – your story has holes, a hospital WILL provide a reason for death. The death certificate WILL show a reason for the death. If not the police should be involved. 

        People that do have an an adverse effect with the vaccine have had it on the FIRST dose, if the first dose is good the second has always been fine too.

        You do realise that people who have the vaccine do die from other causes don’t you.

        The very few deaths have not been kept secret, as YOU have pointed out previously so why keep this one secret? More to this story…….

      • #1740449
        PlanB
        Member

         

        Greg, Yes hospitals or Drs will show a reason for death — it is not always correct,  if there has not been an Autopsy,  sometimes there is a lot of guesswork and they get away with it.

        Sometimes even the time is wrong,  I have seen this happen myself at least twice

         

      • #1740450
        PlanB
        Member

        PlanB – yes mistakes happen AND if they really wanted to cover it up they would just lie about the cause, not a response of, “Officials told them a flat and firm NO!”

         

      • #1740451
        PlanB
        Member

        Yes Greg they VERY often bury their mistakes

      • #1740452
        Beemee
        Member

        Well it seems we are in the dark. Confirmed with wife Liz and she said GOVT stepped and said NO!

        Aw c’mon. anyone in the right mind would have to question why? What the hell do they have to hide?

        PlanB – not much of a reaction actually. Tightness in chest, bit hard to catch a breath, then all over red rover. A darn autopsy would have said what had failed internally. Frank had no sign of the virus so that to me states no one wants that to get out.

        PlanB – Yes they do bury mistakes. Stated my grandmother died of something else instead of the real reason. This was not all related to the virus, she died in 1990.

        PlanB – Watch for more news soon to appear. Police who are whistle blowers and a lawyer or lawyers are involved. This is gaining momentum and I hope if it can be done, I will be able to get an audio of the file. It is not on common uploading sites for fear of these whistle blowers, but all hell will be breaking loose soon. Not so much on the virus directly, but definitely on the legalities of what the Govt is doing to push ahead with the vaccines. Its all illegal.

      • #1740454
        Celia
        Member

         

        Sorry to hear this Bee you sound that you are still in shock.

        My 52 year old son had a reaction to the Astra, a month of testing and scanning and his symptoms have reduced, that being swollen feet and hands.  But his iron levels have dropped and his Liver is apparently not right from the testing.  

        He says he feels better and after a month of off work he has returned but feels lethargic.

        His second jab is not allowed to be the Astra… but the Pfizer so what that cocktail will come up with I don’t know.

        I have known two men one my grandfather in 1966 just fell asleep and never woke up from sitting in front of the tv as did another man the same age  76.  It does happen this may have been the case with your friend Bee.

        Hubby and myself have travelled a fair bit around the globe and those trips have necessitated us having many jabs over the years, I sometimes wonder if these cocktails we have had at our ages has something to do with these last jab, but hubby is about to have his second jab and so far he has been fine from the cocktails;  I have yet to have anything.

         

         

      • #1740455
        Celia
        Member

        Okay, which hospital, when was it, and name please? Oh I know, it’s private and you can’t say…..or don’t want to say.

        I can have this looked into if you are really honest.

         

      • #1740456
        Beemee
        Member

        Celia – Frank was just over 20 years younger than me. If it truly was “I fell asleep and didn’t wake up” than why not an autopsy?

        I know the first jab was AZ have no idea on the second one and right now Liz is in a mess to ask. She turned up at my place late yesterday, and with a whole lot of paperwork. Its all the correspondence with a lawyer and others. Its in writing and that’s why I am unsure whether I say too much. It could ruin her chances for continuing the battle.

        Greg – All your comments I usually ignore as I smell fear. You go on the attack and want to know the in and outs of a ducks ass. If you want info yourself go look for it. Other than the lies of the Govt and Health idiots, they are more facts out there than you have had hot dinners. I can only put all your questions as to the why’s, where’s and thou art’s down to fear. You chose to get the Vaccination, so put up with the unknown. as I have said earlier on, we are going to know even more by this Christmas and then watch 2 – 5 years from now this vaccine will have another that no doubt will counteract the damage of this one – too late the damage will have been done.

        Cripes I have 2 specialist surgeons in the family, they are more than capable of checking this out and coming back with facts.

         

      • #1740458
        Beemee
        Member

        Beemee – “If you want info yourself go look for it.”

        How is that possible without knowing at least which hospital? Obviously just more rubbish from you.

        And why by Christmas, these vaccinations have been going on for months overseas, nothing yet.

         

         

      • #1740459
        PlanB
        Member

        Greg,  I do not need you to look into it I have done that as I was there both times and knew the times and the cause and have already gone further with it

      • #1740460
        PlanB
        Member

        I will be watching BeeMee thank for the info

    • #1740461
      PlanB
      Member

      PlanB – Just shows the lack of intelligence I’m dealing with here, I was referring to Beemee’s comment…..obviously. Try reading the thread correctly.

      • #1740465
        Beemee
        Member

        Lack of intelligence applies to you also.

        I said “If you want info yourself go look for it.”which was in relation to looking anywhere but to our useless lot of Ministers. Djakarta has a huge death toll with those who have been fully vaccinated  with Sinovac which is the Chinese version. No, I am not that dim witted, I know we don’t have that in Australia but the point is made, they are not as safe as everyone thinks. 

        The Govt is NOT transparent and for trust in them to even start to improve they must have a proper list”   Covid-19 Fully vaccinated deaths,  Covid-19 direct disease deaths, and no hiding the truth either.

        There are so many facts out there is one cars to look. Type in anything you want to know, but if I don’t have the info to back something up, I need a minimum of 3 postings from 3 different areas/places/countries that has the same truths.

        Greg said “And why by Christmas, these vaccinations have been going on for months overseas, nothing yet.” So you are the type of person who lays a cement path and start walking on within 5 mins of it being laid? It takes time. No vaccine on this planet will ever work in 5 mins. Look how long thalidomide took to take affect on the unborn! Look how the polio vax didn’t work fast enough, so many, although didn’t get it, now walk with a limp, a side effect of the polio and/or vax failing to work fast enough.

         

    • #1740462
      PlanB
      Member

       

      Okay, which hospital, when was it, and name please? Oh I know, it’s private and you can’t say…..or don’t want to say.

      I can have this looked into if you are really honest.

      ———————

      Greg that could have related to either myself OR BeeMee

    • #1740463
      PlanB
      Member

      Why??? It was Beemee who mentioned her friend in hospital, her friend who’s death has been covered up. YOU didn’t mention any friend in hospital in this thread.

    • #1740464
      PlanB
      Member

      Why??? It was Beemee who mentioned her friend in hospital, her friend who’s death has been covered up. YOU didn’t mention any friend in hospital in this thread.

    • #1740467
      PlanB
      Member

      BeeMee said

       No vaccine on this planet will ever work in 5 mins. Look how long thalidomide took to take affect on the unborn! Look how the polio vax didn’t work fast enough, so many, although didn’t get it, now walk with a limp, a side effect of the polio and/or vax failing to work fast enough.

       

      Yes, and these vaccinations have not been out long enough for anyone to know what the outcomes will be –if any down the track —  and there are so many missed messages coming from ALL, so can’t blame people for being a bit wary of them.

      • #1740468
        Beemee
        Member

         

        My friend R who sends me info from the scientist phoned to day as he wanted a chat as he was feeling down.

        His Uncle had the jab and so did his wife – she is 66 years old. After about 2 weeks from the second jab her arm started to swell up from the shoulder to the wrist and she is in pain.Back to the Doctor and when questioned as to whether it was the vax, he said a firm no. But taking x-rays anyway and the results should be in a day or two. What BS they feed the people? Even my family specialist Doctors have said not to say parts underlined in their correspondence as it goes against all the Medical Board has told them to say or not say. Its the doctors choice – open your mouth and get struck off the registry. Doctors are not permitted to discuss in depth about the pros and cons to persuade or dissuade your choice. Great! so who do you turn to for facts? Not the Govt or Health, they are of no help at all. 

        Djakarta has lost 600 fully vaccinated doctors to Covid-19 or the jab or the combination of both. No one is saying exactly, got to lead the blind into doing what I am telling them to do. How many of the Scientist who invented all these Vax’s have themselves had the jab? I haven’t heard of any of them. I have heard of health workers and doctors but not these scientists.

         

      • #1740470
        PlanB
        Member

        As much as I would surely have the vaccine IF it was proved to be fine –as  I do have other vaccinations but boy oh boy  nothing gives a person any faith –in what is being told — even their attitude when saying is not very convincing and we are getting to very desperate times with this virus now

    • #1740471
      Suze
      Participant

      I know 5 people that have had AZ jab

      2 of them no side effect except a sore arm, one needs her husband to care for her because of muscle weakness,

      One had to go into rehab to build up his muscles and the 5th is in ICU in hospital intubed with a ventilator on antibiotics for the last 2 weeks.

    • #1740472
      Beemee
      Member

      Its happening to anyone and yet they call it rare? Really? I would not believe this Government as long as my ass points to the ground.

      https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-vaccine-34-year-old-woman-dies-from-tts-after-receiving-astrazeneca-vaccine/ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420 Its

    • #1740474
      Celia
      Member

      What I would love to know is what rate are people affected over the last thirty years will all the other vaccines being given.  I know both hubby and I have had a few of various needles stuck in us prior to travelling.  But we never heard of the numbers of reactions to these over the years.  I would love to know if and when or how many people had a reaction to all those?

       

       

      • #1740476
        HOLA
        Member

        Celia – All of my friends have had the 1st and 2nd jabs and only two said they had a slight headache. I’ve had the 1st one and no reaction., 2nd one in 2 weeks. 

      • #1740479
        Celia
        Member

        Hubby had a headache also, it affects everyone so differently.

        Thats why there should have been a wider choice of vaccines earlier on Hola.

        My Specialist said I must not have the AstraZ.

      • #1740507
        Farside
        Participant

        thirty years ago it was standard practice to aspirate the needle when giving intramuscular vaccinations to ensure vaccine was not being injected into a vein. Nowadays, the standard procedure is not to aspirate as risk is remote and needle quicker to give however give enough injections there will inevitably be more instances of adverse effects resulting from giving IV instead of IM. If in doubt on benefit of aspirating then if your GP or nurse is over 50, ask whether they prefer an IM injection given to them be aspirated or not.

    • #1740475
      Lucca
      Member

      Bet they’re worried at SPC.  No jab, no job !!

      Food company SPC says no jab, no work

      Told all yer it would happen!

      • #1740477
        HOLA
        Member

        Good, as an employer I don’t want all my staff off work because of this virus.

    • #1740478
      HOLA
      Member

      HOLA – Same here, neighbours (6 couples I know of), relatives (8 people), friends (18 people) all have had little issues, some with nothing others with sore arm and/or headaches. That’s it, gone after a day or so and all feeling absolutely fine weeks later.

      They are up to 4.36 Billion doses now around the world, you can’t hide millions of people dying or having major side affects with those kind of numbers.

    • #1740486
      Beemee
      Member

      Hahaha…..

    • #1740487
      Beemee
      Member

      “ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420 my first code

      ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420 Your code.”

      They are identical….hahahaha

    • #1740488
      Suze
      Participant

      Out Of the 7 deaths in Australia linked to AstraZeneca,

      6  were women and only 1 was male.

    • #1740489
      Beemee
      Member

      https://au.news.yahoo.com/man-captures-vaccine-spraying-syringe-013633587.html

      No wonder there isn’t yet any wins.
      This is Mexico and for those who don’t read spanish, I have translated it for you. Or if you wish you could try google to confirm. I don’t use Google at all, period.

      I have also written this in order as English speaking people would normally read it.

      WTF??? No need to translate this, its widely known.

      Como!? Si no es la dosis completa
      “What! If it isn’t the full dose”?

      No Pasa Nada
      “Nothing happens” or in a sentence its “There’s nothing wrong”, “All is good”, “Its still okay” 

      Se salió como la mitad verdad
      “That came out like a half truth”. (western terminology that was a heap of BS.)

      Ashh… (I suspect this was going to be aw Sh!t but it was on video)

      Es que son agujas ahorradoras
      “It’s because they are re-using needles” or ( can also be “saved” needles).

      • #1740494
        Lucca
        Member

        Toño Toño Y Su Mariachi GIF - Toño Toño Y Su Mariachi Elote GIFs

        Estás hablando mierda!!!

         

      • #1740495
        Lucca
        Member

        Lucca – I think so, just more dribble from a sad old woman.

      • #1740496
        Beemee
        Member

        No logras relacionar la cantidad de idiomas que hablo. Ponte un calcetín porque te estás volviendo aburrido. Está llegando, ha comenzado, y me complacerá mucho decir “Te lo dije”, pero crees que lo sabes todo, entonces adelante. Seré el último en reír. Cuando dices que estoy hablando mierda, te haces parecer más tonto, ya que eso fue en un recorte de noticias de Mexici y tampoco en uno de los bosques.

      • #1740499
        Lucca
        Member

         

        T3amolioti T3ddy GIF - T3amolioti T3ddy Lucasolioti GIFs

        Hey Greg, she’s really getting mad now, says she speaks dozens of languages thanks to Google translate LOL. World is coming to an end, we’ll be sorry we didn’t listen to her she says, cussing like mad. Methinks she had one of those half filled vaccines from Mexico topped up with tequila LOL

        This gif might disappear if the Mexicans take offence!!!!!

         

      • #1740500
        Lucca
        Member

        Lucca – I think she’s trying to show how smart she is. No doubt she was a smart person at some point but her delusional thinking, her paranoid thinking has obviously sent a few brain cells on holiday.

        Even paranoid about Google…..haha, one of the least things to worry about in these times. 

        Facts are: The world is not going to end, the world AND the current population will continuing on, just like it did after the Spanish Flu, just like after the World Wars, like after the depression, like after the numerous financial crisis we have had. The government is not out to get us, the world governments are not out to get us, no one is trying to kill the worlds population, the vaccine doesn’t have any microchips in them.

        All these conspiracy theories are put out by idiots who have access to the internet, like to make up stories and are having a great big laugh at the turmoil that they have created. These guys (mostly, probably the odd female) read snippets of news stories, snippets of information from websites and broadcast all the bad things, this in turn goes around the world instantly and very quickly these pieces of incorrect, out of context information becomes “fact”. 

      • #1740504
        Suze
        Participant

        Hey Beemee, previously you said, “Just wait its coming, and likely to be more revealing by Christmas”

        Well where’s all this End of World rubbish you were going on about, nearly Christmas now. All seems pretty good, case numbers increasing but that was expected as restrictions eased, hospital numbers are very low, ICU numbers are low, people getting on with their lives, spending up big in the shops.

        Maybe you were wrong……no, not maybe, you were WRONG. Hahahaha

    • #1740491
      Leonie
      Member

      Had my second dose of AZ almost a week ago, no after-effects at all, not even a sore arm.   I was a bit worried about getting it after my hospital admission three weeks after the last one.  I covered that somewhere on here, can’t remember if it was this particular thread.  Bottom line, no one was prepared to admit it had anything to do with the vaccine but they weren’t taking any chances and checked for blood clots among other things. I was unwell for a week or so but am fine now.

      If I get through this one unscathed I think we can put it down to coincidence.  I’ll make sure to let you all know, one way or the other.  If I’m still around.

      On a side note – I don’t think I’m starting to turn into a cyborg yet, so hopefully, my DNA is still intact. 😉

      Da Umano a Cyborg: Sei disposto ad aumentare il tuo corpo? - United States

      I opened Facebook this morning.  What can I say?  And then I came in here, sigh. 

      Anyway, it’s early days but I’m hopeful, and still more afraid of the virus than the vaccine.

       

       

       

      • #1740492
        toot2000
        Member

        Well said Leonie, yes, the anti-vaxers are out in force everywhere, including this forum, I only read positive posts, just like yours.  Thanks.

      • #1740493
        toot2000
        Member

        The VAST, VAST numbers of positive comments around the world with these vaccines prove they are worthwhile. Over 4.3 BILLION doses, half the world’s population, yet we ARE NOT seeing millions die, millions getting sick.

        Further, the Covid cases in hospital and the ones who have died are mostly UNvaccinated, further proof the vaccine is working.

        Of course you can say they are hiding things, it’s a big conspiracy, yes that could happen if only a few people involved, NOT when there’s billions of people.

    • #1740498
      Suze
      Participant
    • #1740501
      PlanB
      Member

      This is an interesting talk on the radio by Professor Nick Talley — re the Covid and the vaccines, it might only be there for today ???

       https://www.2hd.com.au/2021/08/09/weekly-covid-update-with-professor-nick-talley-3/

       

      • #1740503
        Suze
        Participant

        A very interesting podcast Plan B

        Well worth listening to… thanks for the link

    • #1740505
      Suze
      Participant

      Hey Beemee it’s after Christmas now, where are all these dead bodies, where are all these sick people. Now have 250,000 cases, a couple of hundred in ICU and the country is going forward. Oh and over 90% vaccinated.

      I know you won’t admit you were wrong, that’s okay, fools like you never admit they are wrong, they just fade into the internet darkness.

      • #1740508
        Farside
        Participant

        the internet darkness must be getting to be a crowded place

    • #1740506
      Celia
      Member

      I am worried about not getting the Jab!

    • #1740509
      PlanB
      Member

      Well, I got the Jabs and after the 1st one I was very unwell for 6 days after the 2nd, I was fine.

       

      I am still doubtful about everything we are being told and wonder why everything we are told seems to be out of date in very little time, seems like the so-called experts don’t have a clue.

      • #1740510
        Celia
        Member

         

        Hubby is having his Booster on 25th January and I am having my Booster on 1st February.,

        This Pandemic is a big learning curve for all of us, including the experts I feel.

         

      • #1740511
        RnR
        Member

        I’m getting my booster on 25th January too.

      • #1740512
        Suze
        Participant

        I had no side effects from Moderna first 2 jabs and  I am  booked in for the 3rd of February for my Maderna Booster. 

        I had the 2 jabs in my R/arm in view of the pericarditis rare side effect… so I think I will continue and have it in my R/arm again…. but then again I read this on ABC

                                                                 

    • #1740513
      PlanB
      Member

       

      Suze  have a listen here quite interesting

       

      The “Pfizer Boob” with Viral Immunologist Nathan Bartlett

       

      https://www.2hd.com.au/2022/01/18/the-pfizer-boob-with-viral-immunologist-nathan-bartlett/

       

      • #1740514
        Suze
        Participant

        Thanks for the link PlanB

        Well worth listening to  … definitely an improvement on some of the comments spouted by the pollies and eggspurts presented on the media.

      • #1740515
        PlanB
        Member

        Yes sure is Suze, all they do is confuse people because of their contradistinction, I saw many women were saying that the vaccinations gave them bigger boobs  — that above seems to answer that

    • #1740516
      Suze
      Participant

      Following my two Moderna jabs, I had my third Moderna Booster on Thursday.

      I chose the Moderna Booster as it was the first available to me in my area.

      No side effect after 1st and 2nd Moderna Jab … not even the needle going in… both went into my R/arm in view of the very rare pericarditis side effect I read about.

      The Moderna Booster was good in administration, once again I chose the R/arm in spite of the fact that I was R/handed.

      All was good until the night when I rolled over on my R/arm I was woken up with some pain, too a Panadol wnet back to sleep only to be woken up feeling chills. I turned the heater on as it was the night the temp went to 15C… so I cannot say whether the chills were from the Booster or the cold temperature.

      I had a disturbed sleep with my arm so resultantly I was very tired the next day but am good today.

       

      • #1740517
        RnR
        Member

        Glad you’re OK today Suze, I had a sore arm after a Pfizer booster too, no other effects.

      • #1740518
        Celia
        Member

        I had my third and no after affects at first, but after about ten hours where they put the needle was a bit sore, then it was gone the next day.

    • #1740519
      PlanB
      Member

      A friend just had the 1st booster of — Pfizer –because they NO LONGER MAKE Astra??? Makes me wonder if they have found something wrong with that??!!

       

    • #1740522
      Celia
      Member

      Hey Beemee, which Christmas were we all going to die? I thought it was last Christmas, did you mean this coming Christmas? Maybe the Christmas after, or if you pick a Christmas far enough ahead you’ll be correct……..we will all die one day.

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