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This is very much an emotional issue but looking at it from the point of view of the damage being caused the brumbies must go. They are a feral species and are causing too much damage.
Tom TankParticipantSorry Jacka but this is worse than him being a politician as what he did was unheard off and never done in the past. To me it shows what a control freak he is and there have been comments from within the Liberal party that he was a bully and could be quite unpleasant.
He should be found guilty of unethical behaviour and lose his seat in Parliament and his pension. He has demeaned the role of Prime Minister and why should the taxpayers continue to pay him when he has behaved so shockingly.
Tom TankParticipantJust who wants the Independents to fail? Certainly not Labor and who is good at the dirty tricks – well both parties but only one wants the Independents to fail. pretty obvious who is behind it.
Tom TankParticipantWe stand a chance of better and more democratic government with a hung parliament. Gillard negotiated with the independents and secured the confidence of the lower house. LNP’s negotiator was Tony Abbott and the independents openly stated that during those negotiations they would never have been able to work with Abbott and so they supported Gillard. The carbon tax that Gillard introduced proved how much false information that the LNP, mainly Abbott, spouted about it. It was vastly superior to the mangled mess that Abbott introduced after dumping the carbon tax.
Tom TankParticipantTheir is a history in Australia of parties being elected into Government despite their leader NOT being the electorates preferred choice.
One major example was Malcolm Fraser. Oops he has resigned from the Liberal Party now because of its swing to the right. If all political advertising had to be truthful The Liberal Party would have to change its name to Conservative Party.
Tom TankParticipantOur preferential voting system, while not perfect, is the best in the the world. First past the post system is outrageously unfair as a candidate can be, and has been, elected with less than 30% of the votes cast in their favour meaning more than 70% of voters didn’t want them.
Tom TankParticipantMeanwhile our current Prime Minister continues his charade as a Christian. Christians obey the 10 Commandments one of which forbids lying which Morrison has raised to an art form.
Tom TankParticipantThe Solomon Islands debacle has to be laid at Morrison’s door. As always he is lagging behind developments in fact his nickname should be Slomo. There have been warnings about this Chinese approach in the Pacific but what has been done about it? Oh no the Foreign Minister has a fund raiser to attend and Slomo is bust trying to be re-elected. Debacle just about covers it.
Tom TankParticipantBut Morrison is a proven liar who never takes responsibility for his words and actions when they are untruths, or don’t work, but quick to claim credit for other people’s efforts that succeed. His leadership qualities are zero but his dictatorial attitudes are very high.
Tom TankParticipantI got mine from the Liberal Party full of Morrison’s spin on the truth. I have applied directly to the AEC as I would not give personal information to any political party.
Tom TankParticipantIt has been well established that Morrison tells lies. He tries to cover up the lack of legislating for an Independent Anti-Corruption Commission by saying it is Labor’s fault. Morrison never put forward legislation to be debated in Parliament. Christian Porter tabled a proposed piece of legislation that was torn to shreds by the legal profession as well as by even some members of the Liberal party as it was a nonsense attempt to put in place something that would protect the Government, and senior public servants from any exposure of inappropriate, let along corrupt, behaviour.
Morrison also tried to claim credit for the reduction in electricity costs in recent years. Yet that reduction is due to the lower cost of renewable energy of which the LNP played no part as they are too busy boosting fossil fuels.
Morrison is one of those, which many of us have come across in business, who interview well for a job being full of confidence and speaks positively thus getting the job only to turn out to be incompetent at the work itself. Our P.M. is a failure on many fronts and Tony Abbot is pleased as Morrison has taken the title or our worst P.M. from him.
Tom TankParticipantThe problem is they have not found another market for our iron ore.
Tom TankParticipantThere is absolutely no reason why we will stop selling iron ore to China unless China stops taking it. I am sure that would be the ALP’s attitude although I have no connection with them. As far as coal is concerned steaming coal is on the way out around the world but coking coal is a different kettle of fish and that could continue for some years.
The situation with Taiwan is complicated as it has always been part of China and used to be known as Formosa. At the end of the war between Japan and China where China had two military forces things got complicated. The two forces were the Communists and the other the existing government forces led by Chiang Kai Shek, I think that is how is name is spelt. The interesting thing is that the U.S. advisers in China recommended that the U.S. supported the Communists but the White House were horrified and supported Chiang. Chaing lost the battles against Mao and he took over Formosa and declared it independent of China. They then changed the name to Taiwan and the U.S. have continued to support them ever since.
The imposition of tariffs on our products into China only started after Morrison made his rather belligerent speech demanding and investigation into the origins of Covid 19, and it was belligerent, pointing the finger at China. That was not a good move given our trading relationship at that point and it has gone downhill since then.
China doesn’t need to fight a war to take us over as they are winning it through trade, whether we or the U.S. like it or not. Globalisation, pushed by big corporations in search of cheap labour, made this possible for China.
A look at history and behind current headlines, but not Murdochs, to get to the reasons why things are happening. A lot of the current finger pointing at China could well be related to our upcoming election as incumbent governments love to have a crisis that makes them look in control in the lead up to an election.
Tom TankParticipantNobody has said China is our friend and they can be difficult to deal with as they are extremely sensitive to criticism. Trading does not have to be with a friend but with someone who has shown to be trustworthy in their dealings by taking the goods and paying for them on time then buying more.
Perhaps Jotar you might suggest another country who will take the quantity of iron ore and coal China take?
America has been on the losing side in every war they have been involved with since 1945 except for Korea, which is effectively a draw as it is not settled yet, and that part of the British Commonwealth they invaded when Reagan was President and Thatcher British P.M.
Tom TankParticipantIt beggars belief how belligerent our government is toward our largest trading partner. There is more ways to win a war than by fighting and if we lose our iron ore and coal sales to China we will be in deep trouble. We have also upset our 2nd biggest trading partners, the E.U. We won’t be able to afford the nuclear powered submarines let alone the hypersonic missiles etc the are part of this deal.
The last time we got so involved with the U.S. and U.K. was when we became part of the Coalition of the Willing which turned out to be a disaster resulting in the growth of ISIS and untold misery in the Middle East.
The U.S. are past there peak of power and glory and the U.K. are living in cloud cuckoo land dreaming of a lost Empire as they turn the clock back reverting from Metric to tons, hundredweights, pound and ounces as well as miles, furlongs, yards feet and inches. The U.K. could well be on the cusp of disintegration with the current Government being described recently by Christopher Patten, the last British Governor of Hong Kong, as an English Nationalistic Government and that Wales and Scotland should strive for Independence.
Trade deals, although agreed to and signed, are based upon trust and Australia have betrayed the trust of more than a few over recent years, Afghan who helped us during our military operations for example as well as the French with this submarine deal. That French submarine was orginally designed as a nuclear powered vessel so why not just revert back to its original design instead causing such an upset and tying ourselves to the U.S. even more than we are now.
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